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20VC: Open Models vs Frontier Models: Who Actually Wins? | The $100,000 Token Budget Every Engineer Will Need | Why Forward-Deployed Engineers Are the Future of Enterprise AI with Clay Bavor, Co-Founder of Sierra

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Guest

Clay BavorCo-Founder, Sierra

Clay Bavor is the co-founder of Sierra, an enterprise AI company that builds customer-facing AI agents.

Summary

Clay Bavor says Sierra deliberately avoided building its own foundation models and instead fine-tunes on top of open-weights systems, while still believing demand for frontier-level intelligence remains effectively unbounded in high-stakes domains like coding, science, materials, and law. He argues that reasoning models are driving token usage sharply higher because they “think out loud,” making token spend a real operating line item that may eventually be budgeted per employee. Bavor walks through Sierra’s internal AI stack, including an MCP gateway that connects Claude, Codex, and Sierra’s own Pinecone agent to company systems, plus Sierra Brain, which grounds agents in company context and leadership docs. On the enterprise side, he says Sierra’s forward-deployed model helps customers go live quickly, with examples like Next in six weeks and Cigna in 58 days, and claims the company now serves 40% of the Fortune 50. He also explains how AI is changing hiring, board cadence, and the bottleneck in software development, which he thinks is moving from writing code to reviewing code to deciding what should be built.

Notes

Guests

Clay Bavor

Hosts

Harry Stebbings

Mentioned

Sundar PichaiBrad BavorBrett BavorRichard HammingDavid McCullough