Anthropic's Labs Lead On Fable's Capabilities + Building AI-Native Products — With Mike Krieger

Original source
Artwork for Anthropic's Labs Lead On Fable's Capabilities + Building AI-Native Products — With Mike Krieger

Guests

Lauren GoodeWired senior correspondent

Lauren Goode is a senior correspondent at WIRED covering Silicon Valley, artificial intelligence, startups, and tech culture.

Mike KriegerAnthropic Labs

Mike Krieger is an Instagram co-founder and currently works on Anthropic’s Labs team.

Summary

Live from the Big Technology AI Summit, Mike Krieger explains how Anthropic Labs exists to keep products from lagging behind model capability gains and why that mandate has evolved as the company’s core offerings matured. He recounts early failures like unsafe computer use, then shows how more reliable delegation, dynamic workflows, and multimodal outputs made products like Claude Code practical. Krieger also argues that raw token consumption is a poor proxy for productivity, that outcome-based pricing is promising but hard for fuzzy knowledge work, and that Anthropic increasingly thinks about model launches in terms of intelligence, effort, and token efficiency together. On strategy, he says Anthropic must navigate being both a platform and a product while using transparency and shared building blocks to manage partners and competitors. He closes with a broader view that AI-native products will increasingly close the gap between what users intend and the actual work done, while safety and societal impact remain central.

Notes

Guests

Lauren GoodeMike Krieger

Hosts

Alex Kantrowitz

Mentioned

Ben Mann