Why a Nation Can't Outsource Its Frontier AI - Alistair Pullen (Cosine AI)

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Guest

Alistair PullenCosine co-founder & CEO

Alistair Pullen is the co-founder and CEO of Cosine, an AI coding-agent company.

Summary

Alistair Pullen explains how a banned frontier coding model became the catalyst for Cosine’s push to build a UK sovereign LLM, backed by the UK government’s sovereign AI unit and compute on Isambard in Bristol. He argues a startup can compete on frontier AI with millions rather than billions if it avoids being an inference-heavy API business and instead ships weights into customer environments. The conversation then turns technical: Pullen says frontier performance is driven by architecture, active parameter count, and data, with dense trillion-parameter models preferred in principle but MoE used because of inference constraints. He also lays out Cosine’s approach to training coding agents with trajectory-level credit assignment, additional reward shaping to avoid “slop,” runtime proof for code review, and swarm-style multi-agent orchestration. The episode closes on memory as an unsolved hack, synthetic graders for RL on tasks without clean tests, and the view that export controls may have inadvertently accelerated a more resilient UK supply chain.

Notes

Guests

Alistair Pullen

Hosts

Tim Scarfe

Topics

Frontier Model TrainingInference EconomicsDense Vs MoE ArchitecturesAgentic Coding

Mentioned

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