
Guests
Joshua Meier is a co-founder of Chai Discovery, an AI biotech company focused on drug and protein design.
Matthew McPartlon is a co-founder at Chai Discovery, an AI biotech company focused on protein and drug design.
Summary
Josh Meier and Matt McPartlon describe Chai Discovery as a “bitter lesson” company: simplify the model, scale data/model/compute, and use the lab for verification rather than open-ended search. They trace how protein AI progressed from the 2018 folding competition jump to AlphaFold 2 and then to diffusion-based generation, arguing that biology can be engineered if the evaluation loop is tight enough. The headline result is Chai-2, which they say raised antibody binding success from about 0.1% at founding to roughly 15%, changing drug discovery from exhaustive screening toward controllable design. They also emphasize a compounding data flywheel, large-scale GPU infrastructure, and a partnering business model aimed at becoming the infrastructure layer for pharma rather than a standalone drug company.